- Lana Del Rey Born to Sing 歌词
- Lana Del Rey
- how are ya?
你感觉怎么样？
I’m good, better now.
很好，现在好多了。
Good stuff, so, you know the story has been told, over and over again,
很好，你的故事已经在电台里
in a record amount of time, in the shortest time possible, it’s insane,
无数次地被提起，简直太疯狂了
so I just want to talk about now,
所以我只想谈谈现在
and just talk about your interests,
谈谈你感兴趣的
talk about what you want to talk about, what do you want to talk about?
谈谈你想谈的东西，你想谈什么？
Me? I’d like to talk about anything other than myself,
我啊，除了谈我自己谈什么都行
Yeah, I know, what a crazy few months you had huh?
是啊，我知道，你过去的几个月真疯狂。
It has been different, yeah.
是的，很多事情都不同了。
You have said…
你说过…
one of the things I really like has been a constant throw out the press
我很喜欢你常说的一句话
that you’ve had to do is that you said
你说过
this has always been something you wanted to do, to make music,
创作音乐一直是你喜欢做的事情
that It really lives and dies with the music, that’s it, the rest is whatever. Right?
一切都转瞬即逝，只有音乐是永恒的
I like writing and I like singing, um,
我喜欢写歌也喜欢唱歌，
but I’m passionate about it because I enjoy the craft of it,
我喜欢创作音乐是因为我享受创作的过程，
but I do actually have a big outside life, outside music,
但除了音乐我还有许多热爱的东西，
Included in that, in those interests, um film,
电影就是其中之一
I mean, you…you are really into the ardour that feels really cinematic,
我觉得你很喜欢电影的艺术质感，
I mean when you listen to it.
当我听你的歌时就有这种感觉
Well, I’m definitely interested in like having a cinematic soundscape,
我很喜欢在歌曲中加入电影质感的音景采样
like having a record, and I do, I do like film, yeah, I do.
我确实很喜欢电影
Did it kind of play any role at all, On the album Born to Die?
这种质感在你的专辑Born to Die里也能感受到吗？
I mean did you…you mean it’s impossible to make cinematic sound of music
如果脑海中没有这种场景的话
without having a scene in your head, right?
很难创作出有电影感的音乐。
That’s true, you know I think when I wrote the songs,
是的，当我写歌的时候
I was sort of looking back to moments in my past
我会回忆过去的时光
and trying to paint pictures with my words about the way that things used to be.
试着用文字来描绘过去的日子。
And when I met Emile Haynie
后来我遇到了Emile Haynie，
who sort of been the famous hip pop producer for the last 10 years,
他是这十年来最有名的hip pop制作人
Could I just stop you there and also point out for those who are listening that
我能先打断你一下吗？给各位听众介绍一下，
he’s probably the classiest beat maker in New York City. Emile Haynie
是纽约最一流的音乐制作人，
He’s really classy, you know when I met him, when I met Justin Parker,
他真的很有才，当我遇到他还有Justin Parker时
I feel like I met, um, my music soul mate,
我感觉自己遇到了音乐上的灵魂伴侣
and you know, Emile’s beat plus Larry Gold’s string composition really sort of
你知道，Emile的节奏加上Larry Gold的弦乐创作
started to make it cohesive, kind of gorgeous sound for the entire record.
让整张专辑曲风华丽而且风格统一。
Because, you know, Emile makes modern day hip-hop soul music, I think.
你知道，因为我觉得当代嘻哈灵魂乐是Emile的专长。
Yeah, like when I found Emile we were sort of an unlikely duel,
是啊，刚遇到Emile的时候我感觉自己和他的曲风格格不入，
but he knew exactly what I was talking about when
但是当我跟他描述自己想要创作的音乐作品时，
I describe the sound of the record I was trying to bring out,
他完全理解我在说什么，
and we’ve just been, God we are together so much, you know.
然后我们就，天啊，我们在一起合作了好久。
I bet you…there’ve been times recently where you wish
我敢说，你最近肯定时不时会希望
you were back in the studio in that safe place with him and just making beats.
你又回到录音室跟他一起创作歌曲。
Yeah I do, a lot of the time, but you know,
是的，我经常会这样希望，但是你知道，
I’ve really found like a musical family within the three producers that I met
我和我遇到的这三位制作人之间就像一个音乐大家庭一样，
and you know Emile’s been amazing, really supportive like, Emile
真的很棒，他对我很支持，
he’s not even moving on to another project yet,
他甚至到现在还没有开始他的下一个制作项目，
we’re still working on like a mix tape to release in the summer.
我们还在忙着制作一个杂集CD，今年夏天会发行。
Awesome, fantastic, we’re gonna continue to talk to Lana Del Rey,
太棒了，我们现在将播放新专born to die的现场session track
and we’re gonna play right now the track from her new album born to die.
不要走开，采访稍后继续。
just kinda…how cool is made of that all, by the way?
这歌简直碉堡了
Just gorgeous, it was crazy.
是啊是啊
Amazing, isn’t it? It smells of music in that.
太棒了，不是吗？灵魂音乐一刚。
It does, the band was just like in heaven,
是的，乐队成员们都很享受
Did they check out the Bing Crosby plaque on the wall?
他们看到墙上的Bing Crosby装饰画了吗？
I don’t know if they saw that.
不晓得哎
We spoke briefly when you were in New York City once,
我以前在纽约的时候简短采访过你，
shopping on 5th avenue
当时你在第五大道购物
I wasn’t shopping, I was like sitting on the corner,
我没买东西，我就在蹲墙角，
and they were all like, oh she now have fancy,
我的基友们看到都说“哎呀看她好red啊”
You fancy huh?“你好吊哈？”
You fancy, you think you get fancy huh?“
你好吊哈？你碉堡了哈？”
I was like, great
我就彻底无语了…
So you’re back up here in the UK,
现在你又来腐国了
and I suppose given that it was very recent,
考虑到这件事刚刚发生
we should give you a chance to talk about
我觉得应该给你一个解释的机会
what happened last night with the Maccabees,
你昨晚在Maccabees的演出取消是怎么回事？
you know, it’s early for…to be not doing a show,
你知道，这么早就开始取消演出会让人不解，
and it never hurts anybody more than a musician
而且对音乐人来说最伤心的就是取消演出了，
than has to cancel so what happened?
所以到底发生什么了？
No one wants to cancel but I just really wasn’t feeling very well
没人想要取消，但是我当时真的感觉不太舒服，
and you know I was…I did the Meadville sessions earlier and afternoon,
我当天早些时候和下午在Meadville做专场，
pretty much by the end of that I was pretty certain
到了最后我很确定
I couldn’t really go on stage
我的状态无法再去演出
but like I said I could’ve but you know never really had to cancel the show before…
但是就像我说的，非要上台的话也可以，本来可以不取消的…
It’s gone to serious, you hear that?
听到那音乐了吗？一下子就严肃了，
All of a sudden it got too serious there for a second
突然就感觉沉重了一刚，
all of a sudden it was like the end of The Incredible Hulk for a second,
感觉跟《无敌浩克》的结尾似的
I would start crying, and you would start crying, and Craig would start crying,
我哭了，你也哭了，Craig也哭了
and everyone would cry a little bit,
大家也都开始哭
and we’ve thought better of the end…we don’t wanna go there.
嗷嗷惨，我们才不想走到那一步。
Hahaha
哈哈哈
Now that we’re talking about the live thing,
既然说到现场演出了，
because not everybody necessarily I think should feel
因为我觉得并不是所有人都认为
once they make a record they need to rush on and perform it,
他们发行专辑之后就要急着去巡演，
I mean if you think about yourself
我的意思是，如果你想想你自己，
and the essence of what you are trying to do with your art, with your craft,
想想本质上来说你想用你的音乐和创作所达到哪些目标。
and you feel very comfortable in the studio
而且你更喜欢待在录音室
working with your producers and the people around you,
跟制作人和身边的人们一起工作，
you know for instance some people when they think about public speaking
你知道比如有些人一想到公开演讲
it make them wanna throw up
就紧张到不行。
Yeah, most people.
大部分人都会。
Yeah, I mean how do you feel when…
那么你的感受是…
I mean there’re some musicians for instance,
有些音乐人吧，
if I say Dave Grohl one of the thing
比如说foo fighter主唱Dave Grohl
you know you look forward to most about being foo fighter is
提到他大家的感觉就是
he goes “pull up and play alive man”!“
快去上台巡演”！
But how do you feel when you think about the idea,
但你对此怎么看呢？
if you see your manager come and say “at least do a tour”,
如果你的经纪人现在过来跟你说“拜托至少做一场巡演吧”
how does it make you feel right now?
你是什么感觉？
Well it kind of depend on the day for me
这要看情况了
like obviously like I’m sort of more, you know, like I do well in the studio,
我确实更喜欢待在录音室里，
because I like putting things together kind of with my producers and things like that,
我喜欢跟我的制作人们一起工作，
but you know ever since I went on the road
但是自从我开始巡演，
and I realized how many people were out there,
我发现有那么多粉丝来看我的演出，
I actually feel pretty good you know on the road, I like to travel
我倒开始有些喜欢巡演了，我喜欢旅行，
but you know I also really like Brooklyn I like being in New York so I miss home
但我真的喜欢布鲁克林喜欢待在纽约，我开始想家了。
and I…you know it really depends on the show,
演出的规模也有很大关系，
like if it was…I probably wouldn’t play a really giant show,
我不太可能会有大型的演出，
I would probably you know…but so long as they are kind of small I…
但如果是小型现场的话
I have a good time.
我挺喜欢的。
Yeah right, and many who’ve gone before here
之前有许多艺人
whether it’s Neil Young or Bob Dylan or most recently Adele,
比如Neil Young啊Bob Dylan啊Adele啊
these are the artists that say
他们会说
“look, if there’s nothing interesting what I have to do live, “
如果现场演出没有什么新意的话，
then I’m gonna pick and chose how I present that”
我会自己决定如何演出”
have you thought about like making it more special for you in the future?
你有打算让自己的演出不同寻常吗？
Yeah, definitely, I mean everyone on my team is totally aware
当然，我的团队都知道
that I like to cap every venue of 900 people
我喜欢做小型现场演出
so yeah those artists are good examples,
你提到的那些艺人是很好的例子
people who did things on their own terms,
他们都按自己的想法做事
and I think that people that I involved with like they are involved with me
与我一起工作的人之所以愿意和我合作
‘cause I’ll do things the way I want,
也是因为他们知道我会按自己的想法做事
what I really cared about was that the record was good, and so I mean…
我真正关心的事情是把自己的专辑做得很优秀，所以…
Too good now, huh?
很优秀哈？你膨胀了。
I know, it’s Ellen, off to their races.
是啊是啊等着看好戏吧。
There you go, that horse is bolted, welcome to the modern world.
好了吧，马都跑走了，欢迎来到21世纪。
And this has been an really interesting experience, I wanna talk about that in a sec,
跟你谈这些真的很有趣，
but let just make it light again and let talk about A$AP Rocky,
但是我们先换一个轻松点的话题，谈谈A$AP Rocky，
this guy is just a real breath of fresh air for American rap music,
这家伙真是美国说唱界的新秀
and I know what a beagle you are as well.
我知道你也不是省油的灯。
Well, I mean, you know I like the best of the best,
你知道，我喜欢最优秀的，
I don’t like it all, but I mean you know like I feel like
不是所有的都喜欢，
energized by yeah like good rap music.
好的说唱音乐能让人充满活力。
You are a very intriguing character,
你的性格很让人好奇，
you know I just started see your music in the way you know
现在我听你的歌时
you are the kind of subject matter of your song I think
会感觉你是歌里的角色
you find yourself meeting a hero in some
在很有趣的情节里
pretty interesting environments you know.
遇到了你的英雄。
Oh I like that prediction.
说得好。
Right. And this’s been an fascinating experiment
在我看来你的经历
watching this all happen from my point of view,
真的特别不同寻常，
for one very specific reason which is the music that you’ve made,
比如你的音乐创作，
the art that you’ve tested along all the videos and photographs,
你用影像和图像呈现出的艺术形式，
the way that you’ve present yourself be honest or otherwise,
你用亦真亦假的方式展现出的自己，
that’s your, that’s entirely your business by the way,
这些都是你一个人的灵感，
but I believe it’s absolutely honest,
我相信这些艺术表达都是发自内心的，
but what is done is it conjured up an essence of time that’s come before us,
捕捉到了那段旧时光的灵魂和精华，
and yet it’s found it’s way to people in the most modern way imaginable.
让它在我们的时代里找回了自己的声音。
Right
.啊。
Have you thought about that? And if not, can you now?
你有这样想过吗？如果没有，现在能想到吗？
Well when I was putting the clips together
当我创作歌曲时
like I wasn’t really going necessarily for a vintage feel,
我并没有特意去追求一种复古感，
I just knew that I love the quality of vintage film,
我只知道我很喜欢老电影的质感，
but I didn’t think that people would really
但我不认为人们真的会
think that like a hearkened back to bygone eras so much.
认为这是对复古感刻意的追求。
When did you sort of become a digital kid?
你什么时候开始接触的互联网？
Because you grew up in the middle of nowhere,
因为你并不是在某个特定的时代长大，
the internet’s become something that’s changed the way…
互联网改变了一切，
you know, everything’s distributed and discovered,
改变了信息传播与发现的方式，
but predominantly music has been completely transformed
尤其是音乐界，
and the industry has redefined itself,
整个产业都被重新定义，
I mean when did you sort of become a digital kid
你什么时候开始接触互联网
and discovered that it could work for you as an artist.
并意识到可以用它来为你的艺术服务？
I mean like in terms of being a digital kid, I had different phases of it,
我对互联网的接触有着不同的阶段，
like I remember when I was 14 years old,
我记得当我14岁时
instant messenger came about so like we all met our bf over instant messenger.
即时通讯软件刚刚出现，当时几乎我们所有人都在网上认识了男朋友，
It’s like carry a pager of digital isn’t it?
感觉就像网络BP机一样是吧？
Yeah, I just remembered when that happened
我记得刚开始
it’s like you just can freaking believe it,
大家都对这个特别信以为真，
you’re like talking to like the most popular senior in high school
大家会跟高年级的男神网上聊天，
and like “can you sneak the house to meet down the block”,
比如“你能从家里溜出来到街上见我吗”，
that was crazy, and then you know,
那时真的很疯狂，
I didn’t really pay attention to the internet
但我并没有很迷恋于网络，
like I’ve always been a big believer in the internet
我确实对网络有很高期望，
know a lot of people who are sort of you know trying to use it
我知道有很多善良的人
to unify the world in a good way, and make our world one, you know, one small globe community
想用网络把世界变成一个大家庭
where information could travel quickly and you know help could travel quickly,
让信息和帮助都很快地传播，
so I mean I never actually thought about in terms of like furthering my music,
我从没真正想过用网络来帮助我的音乐事业，
I was always putting up music videos on Youtube since I was really young,
我以前经常把音乐视频放到YouTube上
just because it was a passion of mine,
当时我对这些很有热情，
I liked editing and things like that,
也喜欢自己编辑音乐之类的，
but I always thought like if anything went well
但我一直认为如果我的音乐成功了
it’s because someone came to one of my shows,
那是因为有人来看我的演出。
The traditional approach, “hey that’s good music, I’ll tell someone about it”
很传统的方式，“嗨这歌真不错，我要去告诉别人”
Yeah you know I mean that was how I read about
是的，这是我了解到的
other people sort of getting their music heard, but…
别人的音乐被传唱的方式，
It’s interesting though because now
很有趣，因为现如今
that’s just a given these days in how we discover music,
并不是所有人都有这样发现好音乐的机会，
but this is a superb saga way here I just come up with in my head,
但是我刚刚想到一个好点子，
this is on some broadcasting, this is classic broadcasting material.
简直太经典了，
Back in the day, you have to rely on classic singer songwriters like
过去，你需要靠着那些歌手和作曲人来推广音乐，
Bob Dylan or John Byer to get the message across you know,
像Bob Dylan啊John Byer啊，
they were the modern day information carriers, back in the day.
他们就是那个时代的音乐推广人，
Maybe.
也许吧。
They were, I mean that’s to a certain extant how things change works to a song,
是的，每个时代的音乐都有不同的推广方式。
you got a track with Bobby Womack on his forthcoming new album,
你和Bobby Womack在他的新专辑中有合作，
with Damon Albarn and Richard Russell.
还有作曲人Damon Albarn和Richard Russell
I do
是的
How was that experience for you, working with legend?
跟传奇人物在一起合作感觉如何？
It was good, I mean I think they want me to come in after,
很好，我想他们是后来决定让我参与进来的，
like the day they saw me on Jewels,
他们在Jewels发现了我，
so really they just you know…
所以…
Bobby wanted me to freestyle on just some of the tracks he had, Bobby
给我一段旋律让我自由发挥，
he wanted me to just make a chorus,
他想让我唱一段和声，
so that’s why I did, and it’s been a while now, but it was beautiful.
所以我就唱了，这已经过去一段时间了，但这经历很棒。
Well I’ve heard the track
我听了那首歌
Oh have you?
真的？
Yeah, and I can tell you that it’s incredible,
是的，我想说真的很棒，
and there’s a note you hit on that song where you go hiiiiiii
里面有一段你的唱到“Hiiiiiiiiiii”
and your voice cracks, and I was like “this sounds like Bobby”,
声音沙哑了，我就想“这听起来像Bobby”
and it’s not, it’s you
但不是Bobby而是你
Oh shoot
我去
There you go
干得漂亮
Hey that’s…I haven’t heard it,
这歌我还没听到，
I’m glad they’re gonna use it, you know.
我很开心他们最后采用了这首
Well fingers crossed, I think it’s amazing, fantastic,
哈利路亚，这歌太好听了，
I can’t wait for people to hear that side of you with that track,
我已经等不及让大家在这首歌里听到你的声音，
it’s gonna be good, interesting.
这歌会很棒。
Lot of things to look forward to, you know,
来年很值得期盼，
in terms of this year, ideally having achieved so much in terms of what’s conventionally successful
就今年来说，你取得了那么多成功，
with lots of people watching Video Games, listening to the songs and the album,
有那么多人去看Video Games，听你的歌和专辑，
you know, you made it, you did it, congratulations,
你成功了，祝贺祝贺，
you’re a modern day hero,
你是个英雄，
what do you want to look back on 2012? 2012
年你还有什么要回顾的？
And what do you ideally want to have achieved?
还有什么你希望自己可以得到的？
I mean I think the same thing, as I sort of wanna achieve every year,
和以前一样吧还是那些东西，
which is just to have no regrets, and live gracefully,
希望自己没有遗憾，优雅地生活，
and I wanted to make a good record, and I did that, so that’s cool.
还希望能做出一张好专辑，这个我已经做到了，很开心。
Yeah, you did, and you know I hope you enjoy that process of getting it out,
是啊，我希望你很享受这张专辑的创作过程，
and the way people react to the music,
还有人们对你的音乐的反响，
‘cause you know as well as I do that’s what really matters,
因为，就我而言，这些是最重要的，
and thank you very much for your time Lana Del Rey.
最后感谢你的宝贵时间兰娜黛蕊。
Thank you.
感谢CCTV。
And we’ll catch up with you when the time’s right,
等时间合适的时候我们还会再见的，
you’ve started planning any show out here again in the summer
你有计划今年夏天在英国演出吗，
or is it too early to say?
或者说现在决定还为时过早？
Um, thinking about festivals, kind of have to figure it out.
也可能在音乐节吧，现在还都在计划中。
It’s nice to talk with you.
很高兴和你聊天。
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